Cupsole vs Vulcanized Skate Shoes: The Great Argument

An argument that has been hotly contested as much as is a hot dog a sandwich? Who really was JFK’s assassin? Did Yoko break up the Beatles? Is it considered blasphemy to eat pizza with a knife and a fork?

All of these questions have typically two sides. Much like the bipartisanship of skate shoes. Vulcanzied or Cupsole. Both equally represented by skaters but usually different in pricing and the manufacturing process. If you understand the conceptual difference between cupsole and vulc, then this article means nothing to you unless it’s a rainy day and you’ve somehow stumbled upon this blog. If that’s the case, crack open that tall boy of cheap beer you got by your side and enjoy the next three and a half minutes of scholastic writing.

If you actually are here to learn about the difference between vulc and cupshole shoes, then prepare yourself for a complete miseducation of the subject.

Vulcanized Shoes 

Vulcanized Shoes are:

  • Better boardfeel
  • Easy to break in
  • Insole makes the difference
  • Less expensive

Now to fully explain what vulcanized shoes are, you have to imagine yourself in a hot, steamy factory in the middle of the Guangdong province in China (and that’s not a dig at China, they just happen to have the world’s largest population thus leading to a comparative advantage in human labor intensity, thanks college). Moving on, vulcanized shoes are twice baked, like your mother’s potatoes she makes whenever steak is being served.  The rubber outsole of the shoes is assembled onto the typically heat-resistant upper part before the rubber is completely cured. The first baking takes place before the assembly and the second ‘steam baking’ takes place after assembly to ensure a tough, durable yet easy to break in shoe.

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Vans Rowley Solos. Example of a Vulcanized shoe.

The important part to remember here is that many of the materials have to heat resistant, so that means no foam material such as EVA (Ethylene-vinyl acetate) or TPR (Thermoplastic rubber). These kind of materials, however, you will find in cupsole shoes. Since vulcanized shoes are much easier to make, thus leading to mass production (if economies of scale exists…if you don’t understand what economies of scale means, check out microeconomics, it’s essentially the reason why the american economy became so fucking dominant) and a much cheaper price than you would pay for a pair of cupsole skate shoes.  Additionally, since vulcanized shoes do not typically have EVA or TPR in them, which act as a cushioning agent, the insole of the shoe is going to be the most important.  That’s why you’ll see Vans offering the Ultracush, Ultracush HD, and Ultracush Lite, which offer those pretty little feet of yours some protection when you’re hucking yourself down a ten stair. Footprint Insoles, which just creates insoles for both skate shoes and snowboard boots, found a niche market for people who wanted something more of out of their insoles for both vulc and cupsole shoes (just rip the liner out of the cupsole and you can put in one of their insoles).

So what does all of this mean for skating in vulc shoes? To make it simple and because I’m sick of typing already, it gives you a better boardfeel overall, quicker and easier time to break in the shoes, option to replace the insoles (most of the time), and usually a lower price tag which is easier on your wallet. Also, if you’re concerned about protection (I’m not, was raised Catholic but that’s neither here nor there), don’t go looking to vulcanized shoes for it. They usually have minimal padding which can lead to blowouts in the shoe but companies have been inserting second layers into toe caps to combat this.

If what was just written about vulc shoes tickles your fancy, then we’d recommend going down the road of Vans, Lakai (Selects), Emerica (Vulcs), Nike SB (Janoskis) and Adidas (Vulcs).

Cupsole Shoes

Think comfort. Think nestling yourself between two giant, all natural, warm and supporting…pillows. Could’ve turned this article into something your aunt reads on vacation but for time being, we’ll stick to cupsoles.

Cupsole Shoes are:

  • Supportive
  • Protective
  • Harder to break in
  • Offer less boardfeel
  • More expensive

Cupsoles are special. Special in the sense, they were specifically designed for skateboarding.  Skaters complained they kept getting heel bruises, designers listened, and voila, cupsole is born. Creating a cupsole is a lot like making pizza, put a solid layer down first, then some cushion and then finally a rubber layer sprinkling. Cupsoles, as mentioned previously, use EVA or TPR as a cushioning foam that is placed inside a rubber ‘cup’. The rubber ‘cup’ is traditionally bigger and filled with the EVA or TPR foam which gives more space between you and your board but more support to your foot and ankle.

What’s getting baked though? Am I baked? Why so many food metaphors? Cupsoles don’t get baked. This is mentioned before if you were reading carefully. Cupsoles are traditionally stitched to the top part of the shoe. Since there is no baking, companies can puts all sorts of technology and goodies into the cupsole before it is sewn to the upper portion. This is why you’ll see things like airbags, arch support, heel support, and any support you need besides financial and emotional in the cupsole. Moreover, the ability to put all this feet saving tech into a pair of shoes is why cupsole shoes are the preferred shoe amongst folks who jump down giant shit. Would you rather tie paper bags to your feet when you’re about to drop 15 feet in the air or foam reinforced bubble wrap? I’d go the latter but I’m a firm believer in libertarianism so you can choose whatever makes you sleep at night.

Nike SB Koston 1 (Red/Black/Gum)

Nike SB Koston 1 – Example of a Cupsole shoe.

Why do you cupsole shoes make the most sense to you? If you’re down for big stair sets, huge rails, and overall man-sized shit. Recommendations? Emerica was pretty much founded on cupsole technology, so getting a pair of those is always a solid move. Lakais with XLK or VLK technology (click the link to learn more about that, I’m not typing it, that’s plagiarism, and you should always be learning something new everyday). Nike SB’s such as P-Rod 9, Koston 1 and 2 (not the vulc), Adidas Busenitz, and any Vans Crocketts (Waffle Cup technology, again, look it up, it’s like a hybrid of vulc and cupsole).

I hope this article has answered some questions regarding the vulcanized vs. cupsole argument. Pick one side, or pick both, it doesn’t really matter. If you’re old and over the age of 30, I’d recommend cupsole. Why? Because your knees and ankles are on the brink of collapsing and cupsoles may prolong the inevitable demise of your lower body joints. You under the age of 25 and slightly healthy? Go vulc for the reasons of it’s easier on your bank account and your body can take the abuse. Or if you want to be a big spender and spring for a nice pair of P-Rods, go for it, I’m not one to judge.

Fortunately, here at the shop, we have an extensive selection (90+) of shoes that are vulc, cupsole and hybrids so you can come in and find the pair that’s right for you. Remember, buy a pair get the next pair half off. Questions? Call us at 716-837-8743.

New Lakai and Nike SB Shoes

Just in time for spring, we got in some new Lakai and Nike SB shoes. The Guymar from Lakai is definitely one you’re going to want to pick up. With a new and roomier toe cap, custom luxe-lite insole and VLK Performance sole construction, Guy Mariano’s new shoe is built to skate in and will be super sweet on the feet.

Lakai Guymar for Sale in Buffalo NY

Lakai Guymar (Aluminum/Suede) – $69.99

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Along with the new Guymar, we have in two classics from Lakai. The comfortable Griffin and the minimalist Camby Mid.

Lakai Griffin Navy in Buffalo NY

Lakai Griffin (Navy/Gum) – $64.99

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Lakai Camby Mid (Military/Suede) – $69.99

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Check out the new Janoskis from Nike SB we got in as well. New in stock is the Lunar Janoski offering ultra lightweight cushioning, enhanced grip and flexibility, and additional padded tongue for a snug fit.

Lunar Janoski Obsidian for Sale in Buffalo NY

Nike SB Lunar Janoski (Obsidian) – $109.99

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Nike SB Janoski (Dark Grey) – $84.99

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Nike SB Janoski (Sail/Grey) – $84.99

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Shoes are still buy a pair, get the second pair half off so stock up. Stop in, snag two pairs, and get out there. Sun’s shining…

New ThirtyTwo & Nike SB Boots

We’re a little late on updating the new products section for the ’14-’15 Winter Season but we’re making attempts so back off. Here’s some of the new ThirtyTwo and Nike SB boots we just got in. Take a look, some of these are hawt.

 

Finally Snow, Spray Skiers & SOTY 2013

Apparently there’s a chance of us getting 2 feet of snow in the near future according to The Weather Channel? And by near future, we mean Wednesday and Thursday. That’s right, Lake Effect Snow coming in hot. So start faking the cough and the fever and get ready to shred. This is the first time in awhile we’ve seen some heavy snow in December and resorts open this early. Take advantage of it. By no means should you be contemplating whether or not it’s a good idea to skip out on work, miss your mom’s birthday or worry about your dog. They’ll forgive you…eventually. Not saying you have to be selfish but some Me-Time with your buds is always encouraged. Oh yeah, go check out Erik Leon’s Full Part over at YoBeat. Wear two pairs of underwear. Also, click here to find yet another reason to hate skiers.

And…drumroll… SKATER OF THE YEAR 2013. ISHOD WAIR. Big congrats. It was a tough competition but Ishod deserved it. You can talk shit about how he didn’t or someone else did more or was gnarlier but face it, you’re not Thrasher Magazine and you’re only one person. Maybe your dude will get it next year. Kudos Ishod. Make this fullscreen.

Remember check out our Facebook, Twitter and Instagram for Updates and all sorts of fun, somewhat informative stuff that will help waste time. Cheers

Skateboard Jewelry, Nike SB Lock In & SOTY

So the jewelry part might have you thrown you off and you may think that we’re not into jewelry here, but this jewelry is pretty rad. It’s made from old skate decks and really well crafted. It’s a one woman operation behind Trebird Jewelry and she’s based right here in Buffalo, NY. Her work is unique and unlike anything we’ve seen before. There are chairs made from old decks and shelves too but how often do you see bracelets & earrings? The jewelry is different every time because a different deck is used each time so no one piece is alike. So if you’re looking to get your girlfriend a gift for the holidays or your mom something personal, find your old skate decks and send ’em to Trebird Jewelry! Skateboard Jewelry at its finest…and we’ll let you in on a little secret. We’ll be selling some here at the shop just in time for the holiday season. The first link is to her Etsy page and the second is to her Facebook. Go check it out!

Also if you’re not watching the Berrics Nike SB lock in, you should. Cause it’s a great way to waste your Saturday. A list of 616 tricks from Tranny to Manny. Flatground to Ledges. All have to be completed in 24-hours while locked inside the Berrics. So head over there to watch PRod, Shane O’Neill, Ben Raybourn, Ishod Wair & the rest of the Nike SB team try to check off this insane list of tricks. Is there even food provided? Are bathroom breaks allowed or is Theotis Beasley rocking a nice pair of Depends? We don’t know. But we wouldn’t mind wearing adult diapers. Saves time and really diminishes the use of wearing underwear. Also it’s the time of the year to Vote for THRASHER’S SKATER OF THE YEAR. You gonna go with the OG Jim Greco or the young buck slayer of tranny Ben Raybourn? Ishod Wair, Collin Provost, Bob Burnquist (Old but still ripping), Mark Suciu, Clint Walker, David Gravette (Dirtiest Mustache), Brandon Westgate (So hot right now), Dane Burman (Mad Man), Nyjah Huston (Will Win either this year or next year), and Tommy Sandoval are all on the list as well. Choose wisely and Vote your little hearts out. Here’s Ben Raybourn’s part Raybourn Identity. Enjoy.

Stuff that’s New

 New Snowboards, Boots & Bindings and New Skate Shoes

Been lacking on the new product posting. Our bad. We’ll make it up by posting some pictures of some new product in the shop. Also, Come get your boards tuned before the first snow falls and everyone rushes in.

Snowboard Boots

burtonboots

Burton’s Rampant & Hail. Rampant’s softer, better for park. And the Hail is a stiff All-mountain boot. Try on both and see what you like.

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Yeah, the rumors are true. We’re carrying Nike Snowboarding. We have the Vapen in stock with two colorways. Gamma & Black/Blue.

capitathunderstick

Limited Edition Union x Capita Collab Thunderstick Flite Bindings. These are rare. Like the Bills making a solid draft pick within the past ten years rare. Beneath the bindings is the brand spankin’ NEW Capita Thunderstick. This board will make your friends jealous, girls want you and empower you with three-eyed tiger abilities. Although none of this is true, it’s a bad ass traditional camber board that can rip all over the mountain.

Onto new skate shoes…

lindero

Vans Lindero in Navy Blue. Vulcanized with Waffle Grip. Classic like the hot dog.

rowleypros

There’s a saying that you’re not supposed to mess with an Englishman or an Englishman’s mother or their tea or something but these are the new Vans Rowley Pro models. If you’ve seen his Battle Commander then you know these are weapons of mass shreduction. Just don’t say anything about his mum.

nikekoston2

Finally the Nike Koston 2’s. Black on Gum sole. Lunarlon insole. One piece toe cap. Great boardfeel. Got a feeling Koston will eventually switch careers and become a golfer. He’s hooked up anyways.

That’s a quick update for you guys. We’ll be getting a ton of new product in during the month for the winter season. Once we get it all settled, we’ll put up as much product as we can. We ARE trying to run a business here. Jeez. Adios.